A Wiccan Grove

January 25, 2011

Pre-Islamic Goddess Manat, Al-Manat or Manawayat

Investigation of Manat, Al-Manat or Manawayat
by Raven Crone

Arabic pre-Islamic Al-Manat is a very prominent, very ancient deity and her following may have preceded both Al-Uzza’s and Al-Lat’s. Her religious adhereants were widespread, athough She is worshipped as a black stone at Quidaid, near Mecca. She is Ruler of Fate, Luck and Fortune, and She gets Her name from the Arabic word maniya, “fate, destruction, doom, death”, or menata, “part, portion, that which is alloted”.

Manat is known from Nabatean(1) inscriptions and tombs were placed under her protection. People asked her to curse violators of the tombs. She is a figure of death and in some poetry, She is holding out the cup of death.  She is currently venerated as the Vulva of the Goddess in a Sacred Stone at Mecca.

At Mecca the Goddess, the Old Woman, is worshipped as a black aniconic stone. The sacred Black Stone now enshrined in the Kaaba at Mecca was her feminine symbol, marked by the sign of the yoni, and covered like the ancient Mother by a veil. No one (men – since women aren’t allowed within the shrine nor near the Yoni) seems to know exactly what it is supposed to represent today.

The Black Stone rests in the Haram, “Sanctuary”, cognate of “harem,” which used to mean a Temple of Women: in Babylon, a shrine of the Goddess Har, mother of harlots. Hereditary guardians of the Haram were the Koreshites, “children of Kore,” Mohammed’s own tribe. The holy office was originally held by women, before it was taken over by male priests calling themselves Beni Shayban, “Sons of the Old Woman.”  From Barbara Walker’s “The Woman’s Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets:”(2)

So, I was reading along on the web and came across the words:  “The waning moon is shown over her head as the symbol of the Crone-Goddess of Death.”  As a result I tried to find pictures or statues of Manat but there aren’t any.  I wondered why Google didn’t show them.  After all, hasn’t she been around longer than the  Islamic religion?  I thought, maybe they convinced everyone to purge themselves and surroundings when I remembered the Islamic law against music and art (an unbelievable horror to me):

“In the light of this analysis, the prohibition of portraits and music can be easily understood: only portraits which possessed religious sanctity and led people into worshipping them had been prohibited, while music and songs which possessed an element of immorality in them had been forbidden. Both music and image-making, it is clear, were not condemned because of any intrinsic evil in them, but because the former contributed to the polytheistic tendencies of people while the latter was responsible of stimulating base sentiments in a person” source: Islam and the Fine Arts, hosted by crescentlife.com

The stone is the eastern cornerstone of the Kaaba, the ancient sacred stone building towards which Muslims pray, in the center of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. The Stone is roughly 30 cm (12 in.) in diameter, and 1.5 meters (5 ft.) above the ground. (3)

I also thought that women weren’t allowed in the Kaaba but through research, I’ve found that they are, and that they are allowed to kiss it also or more commonly, walk around it, counter-clockwise, seven times.

More news on the current restrictions that are up for women worshiping at the Grand Mosque in Mecca.(4)

But, I’ve degressed and run off at the fingers again, so, back to the subject at hand, Manat.

Manat is connected with the great pilgrimage to Mecca and Her sanctuary is the starting point for several tribes. She is known from Nabatean(5) inscriptions.  Tombs, during her reign, were placed under Her protection.  People asked Her to curse violators/tomb raiders. She is a Goddess of Death, and Maniya (Death personified) is mentioned in poetry as an old woman escorting a person to his or her grave and holding out the cup of death to them. The symbols on the bottom of Her skirt spell Her name in Sabaic (which does not use vowels and is written right to left), M-n-t. The waning moon is shown over Her head as the symbol of the Crone-Goddess of Death.  Manat was very popular in Mecca at the time of Mohammed.

So, where are the hidden pictures, statues, jugs, dishes, mirrors, house decorations, etc.?  Where are the women?  What happened to them?  I even googled pre-islam and islam itself.  No picutres of anything.  How could they wipe out a whole women’s culture?  Seems impossible to me.  I feel the horror. 

Researching further I’ve come to believe that women in that part of the world never had a Goddess.  Inconceivable to me.  I’ve looked backwards as far as the Minaeans and Sabaeans and couldn’t find any art at all that depicted people, much less women.  So, it appears that the Islamic religion has been without women’s input for a lot longer than I thought; even before it became Islam.  It’s really a wonder that the name Manat survived or that women survive there now.

I’m still digging.

I believe that We are All Goddesses and found it amazing (and expected) the correspondences between the Goddesses from different cultures but (unexpected) nothing more on pre-Islamic Goddesses.  I’m beginning to see that the Christian, Jewish and Islamic religions (pretty much one and the same religion as far as I’m concerned) have only incorporated women because of the peoples they conquered and they have fought many years to delete her from the picture (consider the burning times then and now).

So, I’m sorry to say, there’s not much out there about Manat but here are some interesting things that I found on the Web.  Webpages are cited after the information.

Manat in Azerbaijan is a form a paper money.

Manat (ancient Egyptian mnj.t) was a name used for the goddess Hathor. She was one of the most important and popular deities throughout the history of Ancient Egypt. Hathor was worshiped by Royalty and common people alike in whose tombs she is depicted as “Mistress of the West” welcoming the dead into the next life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hathor

NAMES: Crone, Cerridwen (Celtic), Hecate or Hekate (Greek), Carravogue (Goddess of winter County Meath Ireland), Mórrígan or Morrigu (Celtic), Nemglan (Irish battle goddess), Ala (Nigerian), Ama No Uzumi (Japanese), Asase Yaa (West African), Annis (Celtic, later turned into various evil fairies or ghosts such as Black Ann and others), Badb (Irish), Baubo (Greek). Baba Yaga (Russian), Tripura Bhairavi (Tantric), Cailleac Bhuer (Celtic), The Corrigan (from Cornwall to Breton, France), Elli (Nordic), Grandmother Spiderwoman (Native American), The Hyldermoder (Scandinavia), The Leanansidhe (Isle of Man), Oya (Yoruba), The Muireartach (Scottish Highlands), Changing Woman (Navaho), Ereshkigal (Sumerian), Estsanatlehi (Native American), Kalma (Finnish), Lara (Roman), Lilith (Hebrew), Macha (Irish), Mother Holle (German), Nicneven (Celtic), Sedna (Inuit), Xochi Quetzal (Aztec), The Wyrd, Nox or Nyx (Greek), Snow Queen (versions in Sweden & Japan), Queen of Shadows, Nightmare, Hag, the Wicked Witch.

SYMBOLS: (Depending on the culture) Caldron, Owl, Snow and or winter, Yew tree, Dogs, Darkness, Waning Moon, Dark Moon, Cat, Frog, Raven, Snake, Spider, Ghosts, Triquette, Triple Spiral, )O(

Neopagan archetype theory:

Some neopagans assert that the worship of the Triple Goddess dates to pre-Christian Europe and possibly goes as far back as the Paleolithic period and consequently claim that their religion is a surviving remnant of ancient beliefs. They believe the Triple Goddess is an archetypal figure which appears in various different cultures throughout human history, and that many individual goddesses can be interpreted as Triple Goddesses,[6] The wide acceptance of an archetype theory has led to neopagans adopting the images and names of culturally divergent deities for ritual purposes;[17] for instance, Conway,[18] and goddess feminist artist Monica Sjöö,[19] connect the Triple Goddess to the Hindu Tridevi (literally “three goddesses”) of Saraswati, Lakshmi, and Parvati (Kali/Durga). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_Goddess_(Neopaganism)

(1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabataeans
(2) http://www.amazon.com/Womens-Encyclopedia-Secrets-Barbara-Walker/dp/0785807209
(3) http://www.crescentlife.com/spirituality/islam_&_fine_arts.htm
(4) http://www.mujahideenryder.net/2006/09/02/saudi-salafi-scholars-women-not-allowed-near-the-kaaba/
(5) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabataeans


  1. Great article, thank you. very well done

    kpr37 ‘black Irish’ pagan, child of the goddess Danu (tuatha De’ Danann)

    would you mind if I linked this, to an article of mine ?

    Comment by Kevin — February 26, 2012 @ 8:37 pm

  2. Thank you for your kind words. Please send me a copy of the article (or link) and yes, I give you linking permission.

    Comment by ravenbird — February 27, 2012 @ 1:07 am

  3. I have a book about petra the town of the goddess. You must go there where Mohamed was so afraid of…Al Manat. Yes we have goddesses in islam and islam is afraid of goddesses olso maria.

    Comment by Grauls l — June 23, 2012 @ 12:46 pm

  4. I heard Manat corresponds to the Greek Goddess Nemesis. you can search for her image instead.

    Comment by Shakoor Saafir — August 20, 2012 @ 5:58 pm

  5. Thank you for the offer for me to research Nemesis. I was really not looking for a Greek equivalent. I was looking specifically for Manat.

    Comment by ravenbird — August 20, 2012 @ 6:13 pm

  6. ive been searching for information about manat, but so far no luck 😦

    Comment by maya — September 19, 2012 @ 11:13 am

  7. I understand. I couldn’t find much of anything either. Censorship at work again but fortunately She hasn’t been eliminated. I think “they” have found that they still need women. Must really urk them.

    Comment by ravenbird — September 19, 2012 @ 1:03 pm

  8. Please share with us the name of the book. I’d be interested in reading it. I would love to go but travel is pretty much out of the question at this time. And, Islam isn’t the only nation afraid of the Goddess. So is America and it’s various oppressive religious nations. Thank you for your input.

    Comment by ravenbird — September 19, 2012 @ 1:16 pm

  9. Check this out, you may very surprised. 🙂 : http://www.thaliatook.com/AMGG/arabtriple.html Thanks so much for a wonderful read which is very well researched. 🙂 Have a great day.

    Comment by BracGypsy — September 21, 2012 @ 4:24 pm

  10. Thank you for the lead. I was really trying to find the archaeology of Al Manat. Where are the ancient sculptures, pictures, reliefs, pottery, weavings, etc? Do women even exist within Islam or are they so suppressed that they have no household arts? Where is Al Manat?

    Comment by ravenbird — September 21, 2012 @ 11:04 pm

  11. You’ll have better luck tracing back the names of other goddesses in the region which might have formed a combined divinity with this one. There are lots of these throughout the ANE. I’ve been doing this kind of research for a while. Its tricky but its not impossible. Also, check out google scholar.

    Comment by Katie Anderson — October 11, 2012 @ 1:28 am

  12. Have you got any idea of where to start? Whom to start with to find her? I personally couldn’t find anything about any woman/Goddess. I really got the feeling that there just aren’t any women in this religion or country. Well, I know there are because they just tried to killed one: Malala Yousafzai. Thank you for your thoughts on the matter.

    Blessed be Malala Yousafzai and all Your works.

    Comment by ravenbird — October 11, 2012 @ 5:11 am

  13. .:.

    the Goddess of the Black Stone is not Manat but Al-Uzza and Manat is still venerated in the form of Lalla Mimouna (“Lady Luck” or “Lady Fate”) in North Africa and the Middle East

    the original colour of the Black Stone was red and it was sad to have become black over time

    in legend it was said to have been an emerald fallen from heaven but this may have been post-Ptolemaic in origin since it was during the reign of the early Ptolemies that the first emerald mines in the world were discovered

    the West Semitic name of Manat was Ashima (“Destiny”) and She was worshipped by many of the West Semitic peoples and later by the Samaritans


    The custom of laying a table for Mimouna or any other avatar of Fate or Luck is a remnant of a belief-system which preceded that of the Amorites and which can be found in many cultures throughout North Africa, Europe, the Middle East and even India.

    It is often held on the sixth night after birth.

    In some communities in Greece there is a low table prepared for the visit of the Fates with a glass of milk, a bowl of honey and 3 silvered almonds.

    Cushions are placed around this table to make the divine visitors comfortable. (See also Nornagest and numerous folktales).

    A similar tradition exists in parts of India where the Fate goddess is called Sashthi (“the sixth”) because it is held on the sixth night.

    This was also often associated with the naming of the newborn (itself often considered to be prophetic).

    There is no connection with any form of demonology except in the prejudices of the later religions and sects who have made claim to a monopoly of the sacred.

    SOURCE :

    Mimouna, Manat and Gad
    Haaretz – Israel News



    Comment by Jonah — October 17, 2012 @ 6:13 pm

  14. Thank you for your very well received reply. Unfortunately your statement: “Manat is still venerated in the form of Lalla Mimouna (“Lady Luck” or “Lady Fate”) in North Africa and the Middle East” could not be verified. If possible, please provide your sources so that I can continue my studies. The source that you sent for Lalla Mimouna was greatly appreciated.


    Comment by ravenbird — October 17, 2012 @ 7:02 pm

  15. “I am black but comely…” from the Songs of Solomon. It may be useful for you to know that the Beni Shayba clan, the traditional guardians of the Ka’ba, are known as the sons of the ‘Old Woman’ which is a euphemism for a ‘sibyl’ or prophetess also called Shayb and directly related to the Queen of Sheba. This famous queen famed for her beauty and wisdom along with her many sibyls or scorceresses were in fact all black skinned, originating from Ethiopia. In most cases they were the custodians of the shrines and sanctuaries scattered throughout S. Arabia including the so called Ka’ba at Mecca. The name Ka’ba incedently is a pun on the original word i.e. Khabar meaning ‘prophesy’ ‘fortell’. But their main area of practise was not in Mecca at all, but in the temple dedicated to Umm as-salima (Allat, Mother of Peace) built on the summit of Mt. Arafat – ‘the Hill of Divination’ much like Mt. Vaticanus in Rome. The name Arafat derives from Arrafa’ the Arabic for a diviner. Thus the ‘black stone’ Hajar al-Aswad may well turn out to be a sacred emblem of the sibyl as well as the dark moon. I hope this helps.

    Comment by paul — May 2, 2013 @ 10:24 am

  16. Thank you. I will look into this further.


    Comment by ravenbird — May 2, 2013 @ 11:25 am

  17. This silver cover containing pieces of the original black stone, installed on 1922, after war world 2, it was broken by British governor of Saudi, to take a piece, to prove it is not a stone of Heaven, but in vain. It is not a form of Yoni – It has a shape of a corner indicate the start of ritual Islamic of pilgrim.

    Comment by marwanyafi — September 23, 2013 @ 9:10 am

  18. The silver cover may be as you state. However, I didn’t name it Yoni although that really is what it looks like to me. Being female, I guess I look at it more than a male would. Considering it’s past history, I would say that, yep, it’s a Yoni.

    Thanks for your input,

    Comment by ravenbird — September 23, 2013 @ 2:07 pm

  19. […] Pre-Islamic Goddess Manat, Al-Manat or Manawayat […]

    Pingback by The yoni of the Arabian goddess « Cradle of Civilization — February 24, 2014 @ 9:18 pm

  20. Thank you very much for the link to your work/research. Beautifully done and explains a lot of the interconnectivity of the Goddesses of the time.

    I still have a problem though, there is no artwork, no pictures of Al-manat. Where is the culture that goes with her worship? It appears that all that exists, she was expunged so completely, is her name.

    Thanks again,

    Comment by ravenbird — February 25, 2014 @ 8:47 am

  21. It would be interesting to do a research paper or even a book on women goddesses of the world it is so hidden and it would be interesting to do an overall analysis.see for similarities and differences of all pre goddesses and present women goddesses of all pan religions dead and alive.Al- manat,mother Mary,Parvathi consort of Lord Siva,Laksmi,Sakthi,Durga Kali,Buddhist female goddesses ,Christian female figures,?Jewish female figures and others.Perhaps link it with famous powerful figures like Cleopatra,Margaret Thatcher,Joan of Arc,Mrs Indira Gandhi,and many others.there definetly will be a pattern How mankind has portrayed womenfolk good and bad.I hope Imhave not offended any person or religion.

    Comment by M Palaniappan — August 3, 2014 @ 8:10 am

  22. I agree, it would be a wonderful reference for women. You gonna do it? I’d be interested in reading it when it’s done. Would make an excellent thesis.

    Blessed Be,

    Comment by ravenbird — August 3, 2014 @ 9:24 am

  23. I agree, but hasn’t this subject has already been exstensively covered by Anne Baring & Jules Cashford in their excellent book ‘The myth of the Goddess’.

    However, might I also add that Manat might well equate with either Nemesis and/or Artemis. As for Allat, well my research has led me to think that she is really the mother of Hubal or Habol the sun god otherwise known as Zabir ‘the radiant on’ identified by the Greeks with their god Apollo, which means that Allat the goddess is probably Leto. I only say this because I have actually located her temple, not at Mecca as most people imagine, but somewhere nearby. I wont say where just yet until I publish my findings later this year.

    Comment by Paul Cresswell — August 5, 2014 @ 2:02 pm

  24. Hmmm, so why did you suggest it as a “research paper” if you know it’s already been done. Or, do you have a different angle on the work that should you feel should be done. In that case, you are more, far more, qualified to do that “work” than I. I’d be interested in reading your findings when you complete them.

    Actually, I know there are quite a few “relationships” to Al Manat. I’m just trying Al Manat herself. Her statues, her pictures, her artwork and songs, etc. Cain’t find it. Ain’t out there. There is a LOT of mention of her, even money named after her, but “She’s” not shown. I’d like to see Her.

    Blessed Be,

    Comment by ravenbird — August 5, 2014 @ 3:46 pm

  25. Actually, I don’t think that it was me who suggested you do a ‘reasearch paper’ on the goddess in general, I was simply agreeing that Manat as a subject would be worth investigating further. Given that this particular goddss personified ‘Fateful time’ which quite an abstract concept, it is not altogether surprising that few if any images of Manat survive. One obvious symbol for her would be the image ‘old crescent moon’ with the lunar horns pointing down, particularly since the moon was regarded as the cosmic timekeeper. You might also like to check out the goddess Invidia the Latin equivalent of Nemesis and how the Romans protected themselves from the harmful effects of Invidia’s ‘Envious Eye’ by wearing a talisman made from black jet stone, just as people living in other parts of the middle east still do. There might also be a stellar connection with an inauspicious star called Algol – ‘the ghoul’ being the demonic eye belonging to the dreaded Gorgon; who is perhaps the Greek prototype for Manat.

    Mind you, I’m not sure I would want to meet her on a dark and windy night, like tonight!

    If Lucifer ever had a consort, then Manat would be ideal choice! And just for the record, Lucifer ‘the Light bringer’ cannot possibly be Venus, but is far more likely to be Orion, from the Hebrew word ‘Oron’ meaning’ Light’. Orion is the demi-urge and co-creator of the heavens thus making him the rebellious servant of the Sun god Helios.
    By the way, did you know that the raven, a bird sacred to Apollo, is believed to be the ‘Father of omens’, according to the Arabs?

    Keep following your bliss.


    Comment by Paul Cresswell — August 11, 2014 @ 4:59 pm

  26. Thank you for your reply Paul. But, and, as it is, I’m look specifically for Manat. I’m looking for her archaeology. There are other Goddesses much older than Manat who manage to have surviving artwork. i.e. found in caves, in drawings, etc.

    Hmmm,,,, I’ve never ever seen a picture nor description of any Goddess who’s moon horns faced downward. Truly interesting. So, I Googled it. No such thing, at least not in Google which means to me, “no such thing”. If you’ve got bonafide information of “such a thing” I’d appreciate hearing about it.

    Consort of Lucifer? Hmm, did they even exist at the same time period? Or is Lucifer a only a Christian thing? Not sure since I really don’t have any thoughts on a male god since my Goddess is female (like me) and She is Whom I emulate. Only a very very few religions have an “All Evil God” (or an “All Good God”) as part of their pantheon. And, as far as I know, there are only three and they originated from the same source many moon ago.

    Thank you for the information of Apollo’s Raven. Raven is represented in many religions and cultures around the world and during many time periods as the messenger.

    Thanks again,

    Comment by ravenbird — August 11, 2014 @ 5:48 pm

  27. Re. the ‘Old crescent moon’ with its horns pointing down, may I suggest that you take a long hard look at any number of images of Tanit the Cartheginian goddess.

    Comment by Paul — November 14, 2014 @ 7:58 am

  28. Thank you for the lead. However, I’m not looking for other Goddesses. I think I’ve said the very same thing over and over again. Where’s the artwork? Where are the dishes? Where are the statues? The problem here is that there is an extreme amount of stuff pointing to Al Manat but nothing of herself. So, yes, your Tanit can possibly maybe somehow be RELATED to Manat but somehow she ISN’T Manat. Where is she?

    You know, Paul, I’ve noticed that you’ve sent other messages on this subject. Have you found Her or the same as I, just stuff pointing to her. Did you find a piece of work that definitively identifies Al-Manat as Al-Manat? This was a quick research paper for me. I posted it because the findings were so unusual and so reflective of the politics of today. Have fun with it. Maybe you could find what I did’t.

    Again, thank you for taking the time to point out a possible lead.

    Comment by ravenbird — November 14, 2014 @ 1:11 pm

  29. Hi there,

    My feeling is that Manat is probably one aspect of a triple moon goddess, she being the eldest of the three, who were otherwise known as the three daughters of Allah or ‘the high flying garaniq’ to quote the Qur’an. The remaining two goddesses are of course Allat the mother figure and al-Uzza the virgin and youngest of them all. Interestingly, the three Jamarat pillars which are ritually stoned by the Hajjis at a place called Mina are described in the following order as al-Sughra ‘the first & youngest’ (New crescent moon); al-Wusta ‘the middle’ (Full moon) and al-Kubra ‘the eldest’ (Old crescent moon). This rite introduced after the advent of Islam was a deliberate attempt to disuade the Arabs from any further worship these goddesses and generally demonise the sacred feminine.

    As for Tanith, she was sometimes called Dha’t Ba’thani ‘the Serpent Lady’ and the premier Punic goddess of fertility, birth, death and re-birth whose temple cult (necropolis) centred on the island of Ibiza where the sick and dying came in the hope of a cure or die. A similar case can be made for Petra and Mecca. The Kaaba dedicated to Manat and her consort Saturn (Zuhal) only really came into its own during the holy month of Dhu’l Qadr (Oct – Nov) better known to us as All Soul’s Night’ where people came to commune with the souls of dead ancestors amongst other things.

    Given Tanith’s association with the three lunar phases, snake, dove, palm tree and Hand of Blessing makes her a worthy candidate for Manat.

    Comment by Paul — November 16, 2014 @ 5:54 pm

  30. Thank you for your extended research.

    Comment by ravenbird — November 16, 2014 @ 6:01 pm

  31. Amentet which literally means “She of the west” is an Egyptian goddess of the dead. She is thought to have lived in a tree at the edge of the desert overlooking the gates to the underworld. She was often depicted in tombs and coffins, protecting the dead. However, she was also a fertility goddess. She met the souls of the recently deceased and offered them bread and water before ushering them into the realm of the dead. Could this goddess be the one you’ve been looking for, and who may well have prefigured Manat. Even the name Amentet has a familiar ring to it? There are plenty of images of her as well.Please let me know if this has helped at all. Hope all is well

    Comment by Paul — August 5, 2016 @ 3:26 am

  32. The reason you don’t find images of Manat is because her idol is an-iconic, not formed like a person or thing.

    The attack on Somnath Temple in India in 1024 CE by Mahmud of Ghazni may have been inspired by the belief that an idol of Manat had been secretly transferred to the temple.[10] According to the Ghaznavid court poet Farrukhi Sistani, who claimed to have accompanied Mahmud on his raid, Somnat (as rendered in Persian) was a garbled version of su-manat referring to the goddess Manat. According to him as well as a later Ghaznavid historian Gardizi, the images of the other goddesses were destroyed in Arabia but the one of Manat was secretly sent away to Kathiawar (in modern Gujarat) for safe keeping. Since the idol of Manat was an aniconic image of black stone, it could have been easily confused with a Shiva lingam at Somnath. Mahmud is said to have broken the idol and taken away parts of it as loot and placed so that people would walk on it. In his letters to the Caliphate, Mahmud exaggerated the size, wealth and religious significance of the Somnath temple, receiving grandiose titles from the Caliph in return.[11]

    Comment by SeldomSeen — December 16, 2016 @ 7:23 am

  33. Find someone who speaks Hungarian and have them read these names to you and tell you the closest words in translation. I claim:

    Maniya means Mother in Hungarian. And a luck goddess’s name doesn’t mean destruction doom, that’s what was done to her. She is a Goddess of Wisdom, because a Chrone knows time and tendency, so she is to be consulted in risky situations so that you can be lucky and live through hard times.

    Allat, even the emphasis on A as in always, and the second a sounds like the u in utter — say it that way to a Hungarian and see if they don’t tell you it means “animal”

    Al-Uzza is a sleeper/dreamer word. Ki mint veti ágyát, úgy alussza álmát – Hungarian saying, means: Your dreams depend on how you make your bed.

    Unbelievable the stuff I find on the web. Maybe with crowdwourcing we can figure out what was done to the truth.

    Comment by Holdafaeries — February 20, 2017 @ 9:11 pm

  34. Tanit – to teach in modern Hungarian

    wtf?! The more I read the more wierd it gets. Too many coincidences to mean nothing.

    Comment by Holdafaeries — February 20, 2017 @ 9:14 pm

  35. You may all be as surprised as I was when I discovered the true identity of Manat, goddess of fateful time. It turns out that her Greek counterpart is none other than Artemis twin sister of Apollo. Check it out.

    Comment by Paul cresswell — March 24, 2017 @ 7:22 am

  36. Hi Paul, haven’t heard from you for quite some time.

    I’m not surprised. There are equivalents for all Goddesses and Gods.

    I’m still looking for Manat in the correct background. Grece isn’t it.


    Comment by ravenbird — March 24, 2017 @ 12:00 pm

  37. Hi there,

    I have been out of the country for some while now and have just moved into a new house. The big clue to all this is to be found in Petra where you will find a stone carved image of the veiled goddess Artemis framed within the zodiac and supported by winged Tyche. Of all the Greek deities she definitely the closest. we can get to Manat as a goddess of fateful time, birth and sudden death I also happen to thing that.Manat and Uzza are probably identical like two sides of the same coin. It is also possible that Artemis Orttyia and Asherah are .the same goddess, given that ortia and Asherah both mean ‘upright, erect. Hope all is well with you . More later

    Must dash, Paul

    Comment by paul cresswell — March 31, 2017 @ 6:33 am

  38. Hi Paul,

    Welcome back. The point about Menat is that you CAN find statues, art work, etc. for EVERY other Goddess. The thing with Manat is that there are no pictures, songs, etc. I find that really strange. Just her NAME survives. She must have been supreme at her time to have everything wiped out except her name.

    OK, I understand that the religion surrounding her doesn’t do pictures. But, And, what happened to everything else?

    And, for that matter, are there women within her religion or are they all men under those black dresses? There is NOTHING on the internet about women’s crafts. Women spin, knit, crochet, draw, sing, dance, etc. Where is it? Are they really that suppressed? Are they that hidden that even the existence of them is gone? How do they procreate? Steel babies to make up the congregation?

    OK, I know I’m going off the deep end BUT where IS She and biggest where are The women?


    Comment by ravenbird — March 31, 2017 @ 11:40 am

  39. How’s your research going? Has any exciting new leads opened up for you since i last visited this site? By the by, one Roman goddess I completely overlooked in our brief exchange was Minerva, from the Etruscan Meneswā -‘She who measures’ and is very obviously a moon goddess.with close ties to Neith the Egyptian goddess of war & weaving represented by ‘the Pleiades’, another cosmic time-keeper. The ‘Seven Sisters’ as we call them, was known throughout the Islamic world as al-Thuraya ‘the many little ones’ otherwse called ‘the Star’. Interestingly, many of the main chandeliers that hang beneath the central dome of the mosques are referred to as al-Thuraya, which only goes to show how important of this asterism must have been in pre-Islamic days. Best wishes, Paul

    Comment by Paul — March 19, 2019 @ 5:12 pm

  40. Hi Paul, I’m not searching any longer for Manat, Al-Manat or Manawayat. I’m glad to see that She has caught you and you’ve continued your investigations. I went as far as I felt feasible and have moved on to other Goddesses and things. It was just really curious about Al-Manat that nothing remained. I do see now, a few years later, that there are Muslim Women as I see clothing, etc. in the shops now. Maybe one day we women won’t be so repressed and when the scholars look for us they will actually find us. Hopefully, they will not only discover our positive input to humanity (other than the babies we produce) but our deeds as well.

    Comment by ravenbird — November 11, 2019 @ 5:50 pm

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